Showing posts with label siding. Show all posts
Showing posts with label siding. Show all posts

Friday, November 18, 2011

Garage Door Hardware

Our siding project is almost over.  I'll post pictures once I get everything painted, promise.

In the end, I opted to have someone install the siding.  Yes, I could have done it, but lack of time, and dubious skill with a circular saw, combined with $100/sheet raw materials, made this the right choice.
Plus I still had inside work to do, beams to repair and refinish, etc.

Are you familiar with "scope creep"?  Ah yes, plan for the unplanned.

Three related projects that I wasn't planning (or budgeting) for crept their way in.

First, there was some minor rot behind the siding, in a few places.  I scraped out the damaged wood, and repaired with products from the Rot Doctor.

Second, the electrical panel, which I had upgraded in the last few months, was sitting on top of the old siding.  It made sense to instead recess it into the wall, essentially another whole service upgrade, though this time recycling the panel.

Before:

After:

Worth the effort, I think.

The last unplanned project was the garage doors.  We pulled the old doors, intending to replace the siding, and discovered that one of the rollers was completely missing.  I did some searching, and found a place in South San Francisco called Crown Hardware, who sells an almost perfect replacement.  At $100/pair (you need two pairs for two doors) it wasn't cheap, but I was thrilled that someone still makes it, and this version has modern bearings too.

Old hardware (notice the missing roller!):


New hardware:

This is the actual product.  Crown Industrial's part number is 4Z2R, #4 hanger.  Link

Oh, we also ended up rebuilding the door frames out of PT 2x4s because the old redwood had rotted out.

The other big fix was the center post.  Ever notice how on many Eichler E11 models, the center of the garage seems to sag?  The center 4x4 post sits on a piece of redwood, which in many cases rots out.  The post then sinks, causing the garage doors to sag and drag, and it also impacts the roofline.

The fix was to jack up the center main beam support with a floor jack, supported with 2x4s on each side, and replace both the rotted redwood floor plate with a new piece of 2x6, and a new redwood 4x4 post.  I put the post into a metal cup, so it wouldn't be in direct contact with the 2x4 under it (and also to give it some additional support).

Old frame:

New floor plate:


New frames:

Last word of advice - when you are replacing siding, it's a great time to:
  • install seismic retrofits, such as oversized floor plate bolts
  • run wiring for additional outdoor lighting or outlets
  • install R13 insulation
If you've already done the above from the inside, well, great.  Even though I had done so, I still found cases where I realized I needed/wanted additional lights and outlets for example.


That's it for now.  I think this is one of those posts that will become very helpful to someone in the future.  I hope it is!

Monday, September 19, 2011

Side Work


Or better, siding work.
I've taken most of the summer to work on smaller projects inside the house, but now that Fall is here, it's time to get back to big projects.  And yes, I will put up interior pictures one of these days.

The siding on our house is in really bad shape.  Some of it is rotted, some of it is original, some is replacement MDO.  The biggest issue, besides the rot, is that a lot of the siding was hacked up by the former owners, who retrofit small AC units, originally designed as window units, and made them built in by simply cutting a hole in the wall.

On Friday, I took delivery of 40 sheets of Breckenridge siding from Jeff Nichols and on Sunday I began the process of priming the boards.  Jeff sells both MDO (think plywood with a wood grain facing) or MDO (think fiberboard and glued plywood.)  I chose the Breckenridge because it's the closest of the two to real wood.  The cost is just under $100/sheet for a 4x9 sheet, so a little over $4k just in materials.  Add to that primer, nails/screws, and you get the idea of why contractors charge around $400/sheet installed.

My first challenge was to decide on latex vs oil primer.  This being California, it's not that easy to find oil-based paint, but Home Depot and Ace sell a Zinsser product called Cover Stain.  I thought it would be good to have some oil in the siding, since it's going to soak right into the wood.  I bought a 5 gal pail and a 3/4" nap roller, and set to work.

About 5 minutes in, I called my buddy Hunter:
"Hey - this siding.  How do you get primer in the grooves?  Don't tell me you have to brush them."
"Yes, we brushed and rolled."

Arg.  I didn't like that answer, so later that day, I went looking for a coarser nap roller.  Found one at Ace, 1 1/4" or something ridiculous like that (HD has one too).  It works, but you still have to push really hard on the roller, which makes the sleeve come off the end of the roller, so it's a bit of an Abbott and Costello routine.  I later found a better roller at HD made by Wooster which has a clip on the end preventing the sleeve from rolling off ever 30 seconds.

Oh, the oil based primer.  It stinks to high heaven.  It's not as bad as working with BIN or Kilz, but it's still pretty strong.  I used the entire 5 gal pail on the 10 sheets, so I'm going to switch to Zinsser 123 for the next 10 sheets, and see how they compare.

Midweek update: switched to 123 for the second batch, seems to work just as well and smells far better.
Priming these flat is definitely the way to go.